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Past Episodes

HOJ 1

welcome to Heels of Justice

Released: Feb 28, 2019

Sarita and Katherine take just a couple minutes to welcome you to the Heels of Justice podcast. 

HOJ 2

Katherine Minarik: Al Gore, Improv, & Social Psychology

Released: Feb 28, 2019

In the first full episode of Heels of Justice, Sarita interviews Katherine! Katherine explains why Al Gore is to thank for her becoming a lawyer and how bias operates in the workplace and the courtroom.  

HOJ 3​

Sasha Rao: Flying taxis, drone law, & Walking Integral Table

Released: Feb 28, 2019

Sarita interviews Sasha Rao, Chair of Maynard Cooper's IP practice. Sasha predicts the future of drone law and flying taxis, and wows us with her math skills. 

HOJ 4

Judge Diane Wood: Ungentlemanly ways, the pregnancy problem, & Antitrust Law

Released: Feb 28, 2019

Katherine interviews Judge Diane Wood, Chief Judge of the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit. Judge Wood gives her perspective on how to have perspective as a judge and in life. 

HOJ 5​

anirma Gupta: "Why Not?", Being a GC, & Comfort Zones

Released: March 4, 2019

Sarita interviews Anirma Gupta, GC of Tanium. Anirma tells her story of becoming a GC and the importance of asking yourself Why Not?

HOJ 6

Bonus Ep: Sarita and Katherine Discuss First 4 Eps 

Released: March 7, 2019

In this bonus episode, co-hosts Sarita and Katherine discuss their favorite insights and biggest surprises from the first four interviews, including Judge Diane Wood, Anirma Gupta, and Sasha Rao. 

HOJ 7

dahlia lithwick: Supreme court press corps, quitting law school, and when there are three

released: March 11, 2019

Katherine interviews the incomparable Dahlia Lithwick, award-winning journalist for Slate and teller of the most inspiring tales, about her two decades covering the Supreme Court and finding her calling. 

HOJ 7

dahlia lithwick: Supreme court press corps, quitting law school, and when there are three

released: March 11, 2019

Katherine interviews the incomparable Dahlia Lithwick, award-winning journalist for Slate and teller of the most inspiring tales, about her two decades covering the Supreme Court and finding her calling. 

Sarita interviews Winston & Strawn partner Kathi Vidal about that time she designed Apache helicopters, her tireless commitment to the practice of law, and the secrets to success in Big Law.  

Katherine interviews McDermott Will & Emery partner and author of Breaking Through Bias, Andie Kramer, about navigating gender stereotypes in the workplace, refusing to sit in the corner, and whether it all amounts to extra work for women.  

HOJ 10

bonus ep: Sarita & Katherine discuss the last 3 eps

released: March 25, 2019

Katherine and Sarita ponder Supreme Court confirmation hearings, what it means to see a woman do the impossible, and the many ways to be a role model as they discuss their interviews with Dahlia, Kathi, and Andie. 

HOJ 11

Juanita Brooks: “Little Mexican Girl,” Art Of Trial, & We’re CryinG

released: March 28, 2019

Sarita interviews Fish & Richardson partner Juanita Brooks about beating the odds, her trailblazing career, and how to win unwinnable trials. 

HOJ 12

Noreen krall & Mallun yen: women, friendship, & business

released: April 2, 2019

From the 2018 ChIPs National Summit, Katherine and Sarita interview ChIPs founders Mallun Yen (SaaStr co-founder) and Noreen Krall (Apple's Chief Litigation Officer) about how they came together to found ChIPs, how women can do more business together, and why women's friendships matter to our careers.  

HOJ 13

michelle fang: 170 gcs​, "Go to siena," & startup law

released: April 9, 2019

Katherine interview's Turo's Chief Legal Officer, Michelle Fang, about why she drafted the letter ultimately signed by 170 GCs and counting about diversity in law firms and what it's like building a legal team at a startup. 

HOJ 14

claire huffstetler: commander, victims' advocate, & surface warfare

released: April 15, 2019

Sarita interviews JAG Commander Claire Huffstetler about lawyering in the military, including on aircraft carriers, and being on the front lines of advocacy for victims.  

HOJ 15

kalpana kotagal: the oscars, inclusion riders, & building power

released: April 22, 2019

Katherine interviews Cohen Milstein partner Kalpana Kotagal about what it's like to wake up the morning after the Oscars to find out your work is now famous. 

HOJ 16

bonus episode: sarita & Katherine

released: may 1, 2019

Katherine and Sarita talk about the boldness of their recent guests and the importance of speaking up when the moment requires it. 

HOJ 17

ruby zefo: leaps of faith, privacy, & when uber called​

released: may 20, 2019

Katherine interviews Uber's first ever Chief Privacy Officer, Ruby Zefo, about taking big professional leaps of faith and what she's trying to build for consumers at Uber.  

HOJ 18

maja hazell: d&I, stars are made, & the underdog

released: may 23, 2019

Sarita interviews White & Case's global Head of Diversity, Maja Hazell, about how law firm associates can succeed and what law firms can do better to help them. 

HOJ 19

neha sampat: belonging, owning your value, & uniquely qualified

released: may 29, 2019

Sarita interviews Neha Sampat, CEO of GenLead, about how women can navigate impostor syndrome, and why workplaces that cultivate belonging are better poised to succeed.